Burton post match

[UlleyMiller]

Was in the away end last night and the personal abuse was uncalled for. It?’s not acceptable.

Last night should be the last straw for the club with MH he is imo the worst manager in my lifetime we have ever had.
Shocking set up, tactics, intensity to name a few.
If he?’s still in charge Saturday I won?’t be going. If the club are happy to accept failure on every level then I?’ll spend the day with my grandchildren.
He?’s got to go and anything else signals the clubs intent. It will also signal mine until changes are made.

Fair play. I think he's shown a lot of signs of being able to get some very good football out of the team (in spells) and often we've been a far better team at home than away, but last night was another example of what's happening too often. Players drifting around out of position, no clear leadership on the pitch, manager lost in the weeds between good ideas, being stubborn with his 'system', and consistently failing to execute a gameplan against a very beatable team.

We've looked woeful at the back at times and that's not improved (a lot of that falls on Woody, albeit I'm aware of injuries leading to a lot of changes over the season). There's a lot of talent in that squad, but a repeated failure to utilise it (that's on the players and manager).

I've backed him, defended sticking with him, and still feel we'd be better off with him than a void for a few weeks if we sack him without a plan... but I think the time is right to part ways and get someone in. Anything else now suggests there's an acceptance upstairs that going down isn't a bad thing (I've said this before and think it's got legs). I'll be there Saturday but being near the away end means I'll likely be gone before the end if we're strolling in second gear again.

[ManorFarmMiller]

Everyone giving MH stick (rightlyso) but what about the players??

Start at the back:-

Dawson - surely he can see his long punts forward achieve absolutely nothing at all, we are about the only team in this that still have the keeper 100% of the time just hammer the ball forward. The guy has a brain and experience, he could occasionally do something different.

Baptiste - been one of our better players, but had an absolute shocker last night. To be fair, he started on the right of a three, moved to the left of the 3 then played in a 4 - lad might just need a bit of consistency

Jules - I might be in the minority on this one, but Ragget (if/when fit) is loads better. More assured and makes less mistakes. Jules was ok last night but has a big mistake in him every day.

Douglas - our best CB - can see why he was rushed back - but why not have Emanuel or Lenny on the bench as cover?

Cover - totally ineffective as WB & then centre mid. Kind of didnt push high up as WB and was not deep enough to be a FB. Probably benefit in a back 4.

James - not a wing back, yet we keep doing this to him? why? think his performance showed he doesnt believe anymore

Yearwood - did well to "play" the 45 minutes he did - is this lad colour blind?

McWilliams - clearly has incriminating evidence against MH for something. How is he getting picked week in week out? Strolls around and does absolutely nothing

Spence - makes bade decisions, tries too much - kind of sympathise when he has Yearwood & McW alongside - basically has to be a one man midfield

Nombe - no service for Sam = no goals

Gray - see Nombe

Kaleta - looked a threat, at least tried to go forward - asked to play many positions - gets injured

Rafferty - crap at centre back (was targeted by the big number 9 for the goal) - went to RB and looked decent - funny that isnt it?

Duncan - was on the pitch 15 minutes and created more than the rest for other 75 minutes

MH tactics and sheer bloody mindedness to play 5-3-2 is killing us, but the players are also contributing.

When we have a midfield deviod of Gore, Powell & Benson - we know we are in trouble.

[CAMiller]

Everyone giving MH stick (rightlyso) but what about the players??

Start at the back:-

Dawson - surely he can see his long punts forward achieve absolutely nothing at all, we are about the only team in this that still have the keeper 100% of the time just hammer the ball forward. The guy has a brain and experience, he could occasionally do something different.

Baptiste - been one of our better players, but had an absolute shocker last night. To be fair, he started on the right of a three, moved to the left of the 3 then played in a 4 - lad might just need a bit of consistency

Jules - I might be in the minority on this one, but Ragget (if/when fit) is loads better. More assured and makes less mistakes. Jules was ok last night but has a big mistake in him every day.

Douglas - our best CB - can see why he was rushed back - but why not have Emanuel or Lenny on the bench as cover?

Cover - totally ineffective as WB & then centre mid. Kind of didnt push high up as WB and was not deep enough to be a FB. Probably benefit in a back 4.

James - not a wing back, yet we keep doing this to him? why? think his performance showed he doesnt believe anymore

Yearwood - did well to "play" the 45 minutes he did - is this lad colour blind?

McWilliams - clearly has incriminating evidence against MH for something. How is he getting picked week in week out? Strolls around and does absolutely nothing

Spence - makes bade decisions, tries too much - kind of sympathise when he has Yearwood & McW alongside - basically has to be a one man midfield

Nombe - no service for Sam = no goals

Gray - see Nombe

Kaleta - looked a threat, at least tried to go forward - asked to play many positions - gets injured

Rafferty - crap at centre back (was targeted by the big number 9 for the goal) - went to RB and looked decent - funny that isnt it?

Duncan - was on the pitch 15 minutes and created more than the rest for other 75 minutes

MH tactics and sheer bloody mindedness to play 5-3-2 is killing us, but the players are also contributing.

When we have a midfield deviod of Gore, Powell & Benson - we know we are in trouble.

Nice summary MFM. The Ragget point is moot though as he's now at Cambridge so maybe one of the other two CHs in place of Jules although to me ZJ seems the best of that bunch.

[Ericsladkilnhurst]

Has someone posted on the after match comments on BBC scores.
Last away won 4 - 0 at Exeter City played a back four
Enuff said

[RU66]

Dawson what's he going to do then low punts forward! We aren't good enough to play it out from the back. Management their fault for getting kids in rather than a big forward & sending Ayres out on loan. Nombe wasted also getting no knock downs.

[Lolmorgan]

Everyone giving MH stick (rightlyso) but what about the players??

Start at the back:-

Dawson - surely he can see his long punts forward achieve absolutely nothing at all, we are about the only team in this that still have the keeper 100% of the time just hammer the ball forward. The guy has a brain and experience, he could occasionally do something different.

Baptiste - been one of our better players, but had an absolute shocker last night. To be fair, he started on the right of a three, moved to the left of the 3 then played in a 4 - lad might just need a bit of consistency

Jules - I might be in the minority on this one, but Ragget (if/when fit) is loads better. More assured and makes less mistakes. Jules was ok last night but has a big mistake in him every day.

Douglas - our best CB - can see why he was rushed back - but why not have Emanuel or Lenny on the bench as cover?

Cover - totally ineffective as WB & then centre mid. Kind of didnt push high up as WB and was not deep enough to be a FB. Probably benefit in a back 4.

James - not a wing back, yet we keep doing this to him? why? think his performance showed he doesnt believe anymore

Yearwood - did well to "play" the 45 minutes he did - is this lad colour blind?

McWilliams - clearly has incriminating evidence against MH for something. How is he getting picked week in week out? Strolls around and does absolutely nothing

Spence - makes bade decisions, tries too much - kind of sympathise when he has Yearwood & McW alongside - basically has to be a one man midfield

Nombe - no service for Sam = no goals

Gray - see Nombe

Kaleta - looked a threat, at least tried to go forward - asked to play many positions - gets injured

Rafferty - crap at centre back (was targeted by the big number 9 for the goal) - went to RB and looked decent - funny that isnt it?

Duncan - was on the pitch 15 minutes and created more than the rest for other 75 minutes

MH tactics and sheer bloody mindedness to play 5-3-2 is killing us, but the players are also contributing.

When we have a midfield deviod of Gore, Powell & Benson - we know we are in trouble.

Nombe a few times could have passed to somebody in a better position than shooting.Gray a young lad & still learning but hes got to man up in this Lge goes to ground too easy.Only one glimmer of hope Whatmore looks fit & played a nice little cameo.

[Back of the net]

So at this point it looks like he?s not getting the sack.
This tells you about the ambition and how low we have sunk as a club.
Happy to accept relegation and failure from top to bottom.
The supporters don?t matter at all.
We are in crisis mode.

[Derbymiller]

just listened to the phone in on radio Sheffield, you can tell they filter the calls to support their position. Abusing players or any personal attack of someone at the game i don't agree with. however expressing your opinions on the quality as a team or what we witness under the manager is not abuse. What got me most by the fans that called in is how open they are to accept such awful football and relegation as if it isn't an issue and it isn't MH fault, nothing to see here etc. I am amazed by that acceptance of failure, but that is people for you.

The presenter, talks rubbish saying that MH is having to make do with other managers players and the best performing players for Rotherham this season are ones Hamshaw recruited, what planet do these people live on. What they focus on is the level of abuse sang at individual players and use that to mask the league position and the football we have to watch and always clinging onto a belief that it will change the next game and then we will be alright.

[avondalemiller]

Did MH remind everyone before the kick off who was going in June? Because it certainly looked like it the way most of them played.

Just goes to show that they forget that they're in the shop window. Would they play like that just to get MH the sack, stranger things have before....

After Dawson got boo'd for kicking it long, we started to play it out, where's that tactic gone now Matt? Now we dont have a big 'un to aim for, we still use the long ball...... We can't play any worse om Sat or it will turn toxic.....or can we?

[Spuddy Speight]

If you don't want to watch an excuse for football currently being played, there is a straightforward answer. 'Stop going to the matches'.
That's difficult for some supporters. They've already paid for their season tickets. I paid for mine but stopped going months ago. I'm not prepared to sit in the cold and rain being miserable before, during and after a match. Did I say match? When I said 'match' I meant defeat. Sticking plasters will not improve our position. Read into that what you will.
I'm not even going to criticize the team or management. One day we'll bounce back but something has to change. IYKYN.

UTM!!!