O/T Even the Tory Party are Blaming Johnson!

[Andy_Faber]

For your information the BBC has a target of 7% BAME (currently employs 9%)( well above the country @5%).
It has a target of 5% for disabled, yet falls short at 3%. The country has a population of 18% classed as disabled.
So again you trip up with your analogy.

Regretably TTR is broadly correct as the latest CDN infographic confirms

[swaledale]

Regretably TTR is broadly correct as the latest CDN infographic confirms

Mm I clearly didn't misunderstand you then! Your bothered about BAME representation? WHY FFS? I doubt you were bothered when there was none at all!

You do seem to like getting all worked up about non issues? Haven't you actually got a life?

[ramAnag]

For your information the BBC has a target of 7% BAME (currently employs 9%)( well above the country @5%).
It has a target of 5% for disabled, yet falls short at 3%. The country has a population of 18% classed as disabled.
So again you trip up with your analogy.

You seem to have adopted the current PM’s strategy of ignoring the (three) questions asked in order to answer a totally different one and the only possible ‘analogy’ I’ve made is in comparing the social function of Dickens with modern soap operas. Not sure how I’ve ‘tripped up’ on that one.

[mistaram]

Never about that MR. It was the fact that some nerd at the British Biased Codswallop, decided that it was their right to change everything to suit their WOKE agenda. Impartial my arse.

Yes Tricky I understand that ,but it's still trying to glorify something irrelevant to today . Was slightly different when we had some standing in the world . Mind you people like Rees-mogg still live in that utopian world that thinks we are still relevant in the world . Also includes an awful lot of right thinking people

[Andy_Faber]

Yes Tricky I understand that ,but it's still trying to glorify something irrelevant to today . Was slightly different when we had some standing in the world . Mind you people like Rees-mogg still live in that utopian world that thinks we are still relevant in the world . Also includes an awful lot of right thinking people

The spat wasn't about a load of past it old racists yearning to 'stick it up 'em' for yet another year, it was about them not accepting the BBC telling them what was good for them (again). The actual song, and the 'last night' as a whole, is a bit of a joke, and will die off naturally as those who crave for it die off, but the whole thing reeked of exactly the bad behaviours the new DG appears to want to curb - in summary the Corporation failing to reflect the sentiment of the (mostly silent) majority and instead only peering inside their 'bubble'

Edit, it appears (using my own form of words) I agree with TTR again, I wrote this response before seeing his OP

[swaledale]

The spat wasn't about a load of past it old racists yearning to 'stick it up 'em' for yet another year, it was about them not accepting the BBC telling them what was good for them (again). The actual song, and the 'last night' as a whole, is a bit of a joke, and will die off naturally as those who crave for it die off, but the whole thing reeked of exactly the bad behaviours the new DG appears to want to curb - in summary the Corporation failing to reflect the sentiment of the (mostly silent) majority and instead only peering inside their 'bubble'

Edit, it appears (using my own form of words) I agree with TTR again, I wrote this response before seeing his OP

It was an artificial spat manufactured by right wing media and right wing "commentators" who use any spurious reason to indulge in BBC bashing! And why do they do that? Because they don't like having a media organisation that on the whole presents an unbiased factual output of news.

Of course if you choose to believe such people, then fair enough, I mean your entitled to get all worked up about nothing and a false nothing at that, (I realise you have swallowed the fake story that it was cultural PC that led the BBC to drop te lyrics, but in actual FACT that had nothing to do with it!) but not only does it make you look rather foolish and lacking the capability to see through such tricks, but I'd caution to be careful what you wish for - one doesn't have to look far to see what happens when the State and a right wing cabal decides they don't like the independent media!

But then maybe thats what you'd like, a state media that aligns totally with your view of the world!

What with Thicky singing the praises of the UK turning into Singapore and you having a turn over "too much" diversity I just hope it does not have a negative effect on your health.

[mistaram]

Right lets unpick this, firstly your quoting words printed by a right wing media source, not always directly quoting what Davies said, thats important because of course depending upon who is doing the reporting then that reflects the "bias" of that person.

So for instance these paragraphs

(The Beeb has faced a string of controversies over recent years - with accusations of left-wing bias and hiring a string of anti-Tory reporters.

And it has been accused of only representing the views of the London elite, rather than the people and down the country.)

They werent in his statement and factually are they even correct? They are a commentary by whatever biased media source you have read!

I did in fact post a counter argument which shows that many of the senior managers and presenters/guest presenters had a right wing viewpoint - indeed more than that had direct connections with the Tory party!

On impartiality, there is a discussion to be had, but that applies to both right and left - many would argue that the BBC was equally biased against Corbyn certainly there was much mumbling to this end and Laura K is notorious for sucking up to the Tories.

The fact is that if your right wing or left wing then unless your listening, watching a programme that concurs with your views, you are going to consider it biased against them.

An example of you bias (we are all aware of it on this Forum) is that you read this

Davie said he did not believe in a Netflix-style subscription model for the BBC. “We could make a decent business out of it,” he said. “And I suspect it could do quite well in certain postcodes, but it would just make us another media company serving a specific group.”



As saying he recognises the BBC needs to move to a subscription model!

Now I understand that you might struggle with reading English but I'm baffled as to how you fit that interpretation into what he actually said!

The question of BBC funding is interesting, again there is room for discussion, though your hyperbole about "hounding OAP's" is bizarre, presumably you are happy for them to avoid paying any tax, council tax, for food, vehicle excise duty and other things most people have to pay for?

As ever you post is riddled with bias and inaccuracies!!

Swales there absolutely nothing new in Trickies story The Tories hate the BBC as far back as Thatcher . They can't stand the fact that they can't manipulate them like other media outlets and newspapers Its always been there policy ,but it's increasingly more so with this government now . They definitely will not move to a subscription model . You will never please people like Tricky because he chooses use black people when it suits him . The BBC are in a no win situation with people like him .If they employ black they are woke and give in to them .If they don't employ them they are prejudiced against them

[Trickytreesreds]

Swales there absolutely nothing new in Trickies story The Tories hate the BBC as far back as Thatcher . They can't stand the fact that they can't manipulate them like other media outlets and newspapers Its always been there policy ,but it's increasingly more so with this government now . They definitely will not move to a subscription model . You will never please people like Tricky because he chooses use black people when it suits him . The BBC are in a no win situation with people like him .If they employ black they are woke and give in to them .If they don't employ them they are prejudiced against them

There is a difference between not being manipulated and being openly biased against someone. But you love your socialism MR so the BBC is your church.

[mistaram]

There is a difference between not being manipulated and being openly biased against someone. But you love your socialism MR so the BBC is your church.

No I just have far to much intelligence to believe a word The Daily Mail, The Sun The Daily Express spout. The are your bible for your extreme right wing imbecile rantings I've told you dozens of times in this forum if you don't like BBC news don't watch it ,not hard is it

[Trickytreesreds]

No I just have far to much intelligence to believe a word The Daily Mail, The Sun The Daily Express spout. The are your bible for your extreme right wing imbecile rantings I've told you dozens of times in this forum if you don't like BBC news don't watch it ,not hard is it

I don't, BUT WHY SHOULD I PAY FOR IT, IF I WANT TO WATCH TERRESTIAL TV???????

NOT HARD IS IT?