Macca new captain

[northpie1862]

Give it up now. You are wrong, it is a perfectly logical time and reason to announce it now. It is categorically not a CYNICAL ploy to sell more season tickets, however it is a fantastic positive bit of news from the club that is likely to result in the sale of more season tickets, as are the 2 great signings so far.

Note - I live too far from the club and have too much on in my life to attend many games but used to be home and away every week when I was still in Notts. I bought my first season ticket in years when the Reedtz took over to help support the club, despite not being able to attend. I continued that until this season when I had decided I could no longer justify it. The news about Macca has changed my mind, especially backed up by the signing of Jacob Bedeau, so I have fallen for the cynical ploy and am renewing. There is something special happening at the club I've supported one way or another, through some thick and a lot of thin, for many years. I expect we will be right up there challenging this season. So FFS take it as a positive and get behind the club, or at least stop publicly repeating this negative view over and over.

Agreed, get behind the lads, clubs in a miles better place than it has been for pretty much all of this century, but reading through comments you wouldnt think so 😂

[upthemaggies]

Agreed, get behind the lads, clubs in a miles better place than it has been for pretty much all of this century, but reading through comments you wouldnt think so 😂

Our average final position since 1999/00 is 76th.
We've just finished 82nd.

[Old_pie]

Our average final position since 1999/00 is 76th.
We've just finished 82nd.

He didn't say highest position, he said " clubs in a miles better place than it has been for pretty much all of this century".

Remind us all of the ownership and financial stability over the past 20+ years.

[Jampie]

Our average final position since 1999/00 is 76th.
We've just finished 82nd.

Compare that position to the result before they took over?

This is the first season they've missed the playoffs. Fantastic owners so far IMO.

I'm worried about SM too, don't get me wrong. I really hope they know what they're doing with him, cos so far he has absolutely not impressed.

[OldBanksy]

Championship clubs have a plentiful choice of strikers better than Macca. Even the clubs who get relegated. This is not my view.

[kill_the_drum]

No problem with changing the captaincy now. And no problem with it being announced during the close season. My point is that the publuc announcement should be left to the last possible moment.
Those players' futures are in the melting pot. It's not fair on the players so what has the club got to gain? My wild theory is that they want to push season tickets at season ticket pushing time.

I just can’t see any sense in what you’re saying.
Macca has already publicly stated he’s more than happy at Notts and it would take something staggering for him to leave. Why should the club act any other way than he’s staying?
If Macca was to leave this summer, it will be because it suits the club as much as the player. And to any potential buyers, they now know the club have no intent on selling. So if you want him, you’ll be paying top dollar.
And finally, if the news has been released at this particular moment to bolster ST sales….so what.
Good on them for being PR and sales savvy!

[OldBanksy]

I just can’t see any sense in what you’re saying.
Macca has already publicly stated he’s more than happy at Notts and it would take something staggering for him to leave. Why should the club act any other way than he’s staying?
If Macca was to leave this summer, it will be because it suits the club as much as the player. And to any potential buyers, they now know the club have no intent on selling. So if you want him, you’ll be paying top dollar.
And finally, if the news has been released at this particular moment to bolster ST sales….so what.
Good on them for being PR and sales savvy!

Of course he would leave to go to a higher league with more money. He wouldn't be anything if he weren't ambitious. And he's the prime age.

[northpie1862]

Our average final position since 1999/00 is 76th.
We've just finished 82nd.

So you’d swap this for Guy Branston back at CB? Delroy Facey back up top? You are talking nonsense. Facts are, until we dropped into non league we were treading water in most seasons this century. *playing a style of football that is lightyears ahead of most of this centuries Notts teams btw.

[upthemaggies]

So you’d swap this for Guy Branston back at CB? Delroy Facey back up top? You are talking nonsense. Facts are, until we dropped into non league we were treading water in most seasons this century. *playing a style of football that is lightyears ahead of most of this centuries Notts teams btw.

Singling out two of the very worst of the 470 players who've played for Notts over the last 24 years doesn't alter the FACT that last season was below 20th century average.
Facts are objective not subjective. This is football not Figure Skating, you get no points for style and nobody jumps out of their seat to punch the air screaming with joy whilst looking at a balance sheet (not that ours are healthy, going by what was posted on here).

Finishing 30 places lower than our gate position suggests we're the 2nd worst run club in the football league, behind Bradford City.

99% of owners of any club will claim they they are "heading in the right direction" and "working towards sustainability" unless they're looking to sell it. Name one owner who has ever said "We have no plan, we're just wingin' it. We want to mix up our style of play every season and lose more money."

[Kent Magpie]

Finishing 30 places lower than our gate position suggests we're the 2nd worst run club in the football league, behind Bradford City.
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By your analysis we could never have be a well run club as we would have had to have finished mid-way up in L1 last season to achieve parity. You could flip the narrative and say we had the 48th highest gate in the country despite finishing in 78th position, so are well run in order to attract those crowds whilst under performing on the pitch.

Was Bradford the only team to finish over 30 places below their gate? Gates aren't solely based on position anyway. Other things contribute, such as style (entertainment), marketing, competition from other clubs and general 'feel' around a club. I don't think you can make the statement that we are the second worst run club based only on that metric. I am sure Morecombe fans at least would disagree that we are worse run than them.

In my view, this metric shows we are a well run club, but with an under performing / developing team. I would say a better metric of a well run club would be of year on year improvement based on a combination of gate, league position, turnover of players and improving financials (and I guess only the owners would be able to say what the last one looks like).