OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[Trickytreesreds]

There's a nice Karma moment coming soon.
The Russian outrage has shown up the lunancy of Europe, putting its eggs into Putins basket.

So we now need that energy review to step up a few gears.
We have the capacity to extract more gas/oil, to be exporting that to the EU, now they are going to be short. Maybe the tone will change somewhat,
A review published in March 2020 by Warwick Business School of previous studies concluded that UK fracking could produce between 90 and 330 billion cubic metres (bcm) of natural gas between 2020 and 2050. This would represent between 17 and 22 per cent of projected cumulative UK consumption over that period.

This will upset the green zealots, but needs must

[Trickytreesreds]

Not seen that. What sort of karma did he get?

Another bell end who thought he could do what he liked and manipulate something above his station. Karma indeed

https://news.sky.com/story/john-bercow-former-speaker-administratively-suspended-from-labour-after-bullying-inquiry-finds-him-guilty-and-bans-him-from-parliament-12560710

[MadAmster]

Ta TTR. If he'd stayed with the Tories he'd never have been expelled by the Labour Party

[Trickytreesreds]

Ta TTR. If he'd stayed with the Tories he'd never have been expelled by the Labour Party

I don't care what party he was with Maddy.
He was a snivelling, bullying snake.
As house speaker, he was supposed to be neutral and strong. He abused the position and made his association with the Tories untenable. He jumped, before pushed.
Corbyn nominated him for a piership. He thinks he's been hard done by.
A mirror and a good look into it would help.

[Andy_Faber]

Not seen that. What sort of karma did he get?

Basically banned from parliament for being a lying bully. And good riddance tohim, Lindsay Hoyle is a much better speaker and still brings personality to the role without resorting to self agrandisement

[Trickytreesreds]

Basically banned from parliament for being a lying bully. And good riddance tohim, Lindsay Hoyle is a much better speaker and still brings personality to the role without resorting to self agrandisement

Hear hear

[swaledale]

Basically banned from parliament for being a lying bully. And good riddance tohim, Lindsay Hoyle is a much better speaker and still brings personality to the role without resorting to self agrandisement

And by that statement, the case for the prosecution that your judgement is flawed is proven M'Lord!

Hoyle is a better speaker? What?

A speaker who does not call Ministers to account and demand they apologise when its clear they have misled (lied) to parliament? On multiple occasions when there is absolutely no question they have told lies!

On that one point alone he fails any sentient persons test! because if ministers are allowed to lie in parliament then that institution is in dire straits.

But then its obvious that being devious, lying and distorting facts is something some posters on here agree with, whilst of course attempting to portray themselves as the guardians of fair and proper judgement! So no surprise there at all!

[swaledale]

A nakedly corrupt and evidently narcissistic leader, surrounded by a phalanx of accommodating acolytes, enriched his supporters with liquidised public assets and spurious government schemes, flagrantly broke international treaties, trashed domestic political standards, systematically flooded social media with fake news, used his power over the press to spread disinformation over many decades, sought to destabilise the EU, had fruitful meetings with far right figures in Europe and America, weaponised nostalgic nationalism, and allowed refugees to be used as cannon fodder in an ongoing border dispute. But now is not the time for Keir Starmer to call for Boris Johnson’s resignation.

Oh and for the petty nit picking ****ers on this Forum, this was by Stewart Lee the comedian, just in case Mr Faber wets his pants over the source.

[ramAnag]

Basically banned from parliament for being a lying bully. And good riddance tohim, Lindsay Hoyle is a much better speaker and still brings personality to the role without resorting to self agrandisement

Nice bloke, Lindsay Hoyle...much prefer to spend time with him than Bercow...but as a ‘Speaker’...no contest...Bercow every time, imo.
Could always bring back Betty Boothroyd...best of the bunch, again imo, and still only 92.

On the subject of being ‘banned from parliament for being a lying bully’...now is not the time...but hardly unprecedented actions are they.

[Geoff Parkstone]

To be fair I'm prepared to give Kier Starmer a second chance

[Andy_Faber]

A nakedly corrupt and evidently narcissistic leader, surrounded by a phalanx of accommodating acolytes, enriched his supporters with liquidised public assets and spurious government schemes, flagrantly broke international treaties, trashed domestic political standards, systematically flooded social media with fake news, used his power over the press to spread disinformation over many decades, sought to destabilise the EU, had fruitful meetings with far right figures in Europe and America, weaponised nostalgic nationalism, and allowed refugees to be used as cannon fodder in an ongoing border dispute. But now is not the time for Keir Starmer to call for Boris Johnson’s resignation.

Oh and for the petty nit picking ****ers on this Forum, this was by Stewart Lee the comedian, just in case Mr Faber wets his pants over the source.

I'm already slightly worried about your interest in my every comment, and now you're talking about my pants? Oh dear

Regarding your quote, if you are relying on the words of Stewart Lee to win your argument, you really are desperate, I think you'dhave been better leaving us in suspense

[Andy_Faber]

Nice bloke, Lindsay Hoyle...much prefer to spend time with him than Bercow...but as a ‘Speaker’...no contest...Bercow every time, imo.
Could always bring back Betty Boothroyd...best of the bunch, again imo, and still only 92.

On the subject of being ‘banned from parliament for being a lying bully’...now is not the time...but hardly unprecedented actions are they.

To each their own rA. I actually think Harriet Harman would have been a good choice (and for that matter for leader of the Labour Party) but I guess the incumbent has got to want it

[Trickytreesreds]

To each their own rA. I actually think Harriet Harman would have been a good choice (and for that matter for leader of the Labour Party) but I guess the incumbent has got to want it

Bercow the chosen choice?

Lets get this straight. The position of speaker is supposed to be neutral.
Bercow re wrote the rules unilaterally and helped the opposition change legislation to suit.
His compliance finally rewarded by being sucked intot he Labour party, then them having to boot him out.

A despicable little man syndrome bully, who thought he ruled the roost and could do what he wanted.
If anyone really takes this narcissist seriously, they need committing.

https://unherd.com/thepost/john-bercow-was-not-just-a-bully-but-a-failure-too/

I'm sure you lot could compare him with some of the refs you claimed to have had,

[swaledale]

I'm already slightly worried about your interest in my every comment, and now you're talking about my pants? Oh dear

Regarding your quote, if you are relying on the words of Stewart Lee to win your argument, you really are desperate, I think you'd have been better leaving us in suspense

Actually Pop, its you who feel the need to post a snide remark in respect of my comments, I'm just giving the old boy due return! One has to show disrespect to those old and past it, not that I think you were ever with it!

Ah now your true colour shows, wasn't actually relying on him to win an argument, I do that on many occasions with you, not that you'd acknowledge it of course, you just go quiet, change the subject or make a lame attempt at humour!

However, what he says is absolutely on the money, but if your so closed minded (and you demonstrate this in every post) as to judge what is said or written by the author rather than the message, (or as previously by gleefully claiming I'd been rumbled, like a child) then that says a lot about your approach to life and hence your rather "narrow world view".

By the way you never did say why you were so concerned about the apparent over representation of BAME people in the media, but then I suspect any answer would be uncomfortable for you to give, or maybe not Gammons have no shame I believe.

[swaledale]

Nice bloke, Lindsay Hoyle...much prefer to spend time with him than Bercow...but as a ‘Speaker’...no contest...Bercow every time, imo.
Could always bring back Betty Boothroyd...best of the bunch, again imo, and still only 92.

On the subject of being ‘banned from parliament for being a lying bully’...now is not the time...but hardly unprecedented actions are they.

Nail on the head rA! No idea what Thicky is posting, but suspect it doesn't recognise that the EU being a united front against Putin is making the UK look rather small isolated and dependant upon the goodwill of the USA!

Also isn't it mazing that the good ole BBC is now being lauded, you know that institution which for all its faults, and it has many but then which human endeavour does not? Is one of the UK's most influential examples of "soft power" in the world and is considered to be the most trustworthy news source overseas. Still I'm guessing AF will be more concerned that there are too many BAME news presenters than whether the BBC is trusted overseas and a brilliant ambassador ( and export) for the UK!