OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[swaledale]

As we now seem to have abandoned checks on good imported from the EU!

The British Ports Association (BPA), a lobby group for the industry, calculates that at least £450m of taxpayers’ money has been spent on these now mostly unwanted new border control facilities. This includes the £200m government fund for buildings at ports, as well as an estimated £250m spent by the government on building 10 inland border facilities, in places such as Dover and Holyhead where there is not space for a checkpoint next to the terminal. These buildings will be difficult to repurpose.

[Ramshank72]

Looking more and more like Boris's days are numbered... Now the dust has settled and everyone has now excepted Brexit, Who would you like to be our next Prime Minister, I know most folk would want Nigel Farage but at the moment that's not possible.

[ramAnag]

Looking more and more like Boris's days are numbered... Now the dust has settled and everyone has now excepted Brexit, Who would you like to be our next Prime Minister, I know most folk would want Nigel Farage but at the moment that's not possible.

Lol...full circle! Slightly less popular than Johnson these days isn’t he, Ramshank?

[Geoff Parkstone]

OK rA, your challenge: Snog Marry or Avoid - Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage, DCFCA ???

[ramAnag]

OK rA, your challenge: Snog Marry or Avoid - Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage, DCFCA ???

Can we rename it to...Shoot Murder or Assassinate?

[Geoff Parkstone]

Come on, play the game.....

[ramAnag]

Come on, play the game.....

I’m not sure I know how...you might have to explain, but honestly...I think I’d prefer to spend time with DCFCA than either of the other two. At least we could talk about football and I might be able to help him with his homework.

If you’re really asking me to put them in ascending order of dislike it goes...1. DCFCA 2. Johnson 3. Farage on the basis that...
1 makes no difference to my life at all, he just upsets you.
2 is a spent force who will soon be an irrelevance.
3 has done the UK more harm in my lifetime than any other single individual so I should probably snog him given my current state of health.

Going to have nightmares tonight after that.

[swaledale]

Don't necessarily agree with you about Johnson being a spent force, but hey we shall see. He can still do damage from the back benches or if he resigns as an MP in the newspaper column. After all i was his lies and false stories about the EU, which stoked the fire which lit the touch paper which encouraged the Tory euro sceptics and they are still there you know!

Anyway much along the lines of the Monty Python "I'm not dead yet" sketch, Johnson hasn't gone yet.

[MadAmster]

Don't necessarily agree with you about Johnson being a spent force, but hey we shall see. He can still do damage from the back benches or if he resigns as an MP in the newspaper column. After all i was his lies and false stories about the EU, which stoked the fire which lit the touch paper which encouraged the Tory euro sceptics and they are still there you know!

Anyway much along the lines of the Monty Python "I'm not dead yet" sketch, Johnson hasn't gone yet.

How much longer can he have left considering in excess of 50 ministerial resignations, MPs turning down the offer of taking up a minister's post and the current Chancellor telling him Boris time is up and he should go less than 48 hours after accepting the role....

Dead man no longer capable of walking IMO.

With regard to any possible journalistic role in the future, wouldn't his new employer see paper/magazine sales drop?

[Ramshank72]

I think I’d prefer to spend time with DCFCA than either of the other two. At least we could talk about football and I might be able to help him with his homework.

Apparently Boris wants to stay on until the new leader in Oct, how's he going to do that without a cabinet? I actually feel for him on a personal level, he might be in over his head but can't fault the commitment.

[swaledale]

Apparently Boris wants to stay on until the new leader in Oct, how's he going to do that without a cabinet? I actually feel for him on a personal level, he might be in over his head but can't fault the commitment.

Whats not to like, he keeps his PM salary until 5 September, keeps his two residences (apparently his own house is rented out, so if he had to leave now he'd be "homeless" though no doubt a rich donor or friend would find a place for him.

In the meantime he has no serious work to do, maybe pop over to Ukraine to pretend to everybody how much hepersonally is helping the cause, other than that its a doddle.

[swaledale]

Brexit Benefits

blue coloured passport covers, a return to imperial measures (re-announced again only this week) and crown symbols on pint glasses. Since the EU has never actually prevented us doing any of those things, it seemed to be a bit of a stretch to even describe them as ‘benefits of Brexit’.

[swaledale]

More laughter when one hears the government and other Brexit supporting idiots, suggesting that the queues at Dover and Folkestone are down to the French and not Brexit. I mean how dumb does one have to be to swallow that.

It was the UK that demanded a hard Brexit, requiring checks and passport stamps at the border, it was the UK government who turned down a request for funding for more passport/customs booths and its not up to the French to make Brexit painless is it? I mean I know the Brexit supporters sold this fairy tale that we could leave the EU, the single market and the customs union whilst retaining all the benefits, but only a complete idiot would believe that!!

Of course the UK isn't enforcing all the required checks (those it requires) for inwards traffic, because it recognises that to do so would impose additional costs!!!! Oops that doesn't sound like control of our borders!!

[swaledale]

Just how stupid is Truss?

Was passionately in favour of remaining un the EU, changed her tune to advance as a minister, now says she was wrong to vote remain - now I can, just about, understand someone voting Leave in 2016, I mean obviously there are millions in this country who quite frankly would vote for their own death it seems to "take back control" and there were many fooled into thinking there would be an extra £350 million going into the health service, but hey ho if the impossible dream is attractive and your a little dim or uninformed, then fine.

But 6 years later when Brexit is clearly an utter disaster, costing the UK a minimum of £400 million a week, to say that voting Remain was the wrong choice when all the evidence suggests otherwise, surely means you are absolutely bat**** crazy? Or just prepared to ignore reality and say anything to gain power. In either case is that who the UK needs as its next leader, a lying mad fantasist who lacks the charisma of the previous one?

Liz Truss says there was no disruption when leaving the EU.

Farming, fishing, music, trade, any business which imports or exports goods from or to the EU, chaos at Dover, airports and a 4% drop in GDP all due to Brexit, all suggest she is detached from reality.

[ramAnag]

Just how stupid is Truss?

Was passionately in favour of remaining un the EU, changed her tune to advance as a minister, now says she was wrong to vote remain - now I can, just about, understand someone voting Leave in 2016, I mean obviously there are millions in this country who quite frankly would vote for their own death it seems to "take back control" and there were many fooled into thinking there would be an extra £350 million going into the health service, but hey ho if the impossible dream is attractive and your a little dim or uninformed, then fine.

But 6 years later when Brexit is clearly an utter disaster, costing the UK a minimum of £400 million a week, to say that voting Remain was the wrong choice when all the evidence suggests otherwise, surely means you are absolutely bat**** crazy? Or just prepared to ignore reality and say anything to gain power. In either case is that who the UK needs as its next leader, a lying mad fantasist who lacks the charisma of the previous one?

Liz Truss says there was no disruption when leaving the EU.

Farming, fishing, music, trade, any business which imports or exports goods from or to the EU, chaos at Dover, airports and a 4% drop in GDP all due to Brexit, all suggest she is detached from reality.

Truss is as stupid as the system that has allowed this huge decision to be made, for the third time in recent years, by 160,000-200,000 Tory Party members, Swale.
It’s ridiculous. We are facing as great a crisis as there has been in any of our lifetimes and the PM, who was, let us not forget, desperate to remain in office, has buggered off on about his third ‘honeymoon’ along, apparently, with the rest of the Cabinet who are on holiday.
There is no one in charge...and frankly no likelihood of either Sunak or, more likely, Truss being able to take charge of either a Party or a country that is more divided than I can ever remember.
Brexit, in the form of Johnson’s and Truss’ indecision - they both changed their minds or just couldn’t decide which outcome would suit their careers best - is the common denominator in all this chaos and we can only hope that the next time a Government and PM is chosen it will be by the whole electorate at a General Election.