OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[MadAmster]

Page 208
(c) by derogation from Article 127 (1), Articles 107, 108 and 109 TFEU shall not apply to measures of the United Kingdom authorities, including on Rural Development, supporting the production of and trade in agricultural products in the United Kingdom up to an annual level of support which shall not be more than the total amount of expenditure incurred in the United Kingdom under the Common Agricultural Policy in 2019, and provided that a minimum percentage of that exempted support complies with the provisions of Annex 2 to the WTO Agreement on Agriculture. Such minimum percentage shall be determined on the basis of the last available percentage to which the overall expenditure under the Common Agricultural Policy in the Union complied with the provisions of Annex 2 to the WTO Agreement on Agriculture;
(d) for the period between 1 January 2021 and the end of the transition period, the United Kingdom shall: shall make a contribution to the Union budget, as determined in accordance with paragraph 3;

This tells me (in c) that we will still be subject to the terms of the CAP after 2020. It also tells me (d) that there is already a 2nd transition period starting 1/1/21.

Page 209 confirms what I have gleaned from (d) on page 208 and that we will still be contributing to the CAP after 1/1/21

Pages 304 and 305 make the only mention of the Customs Union and internal market in the document. It seems that there will be no hard (tax) border between the North and the Republic. Nowhere does it mention ending or continuing the Customs Union between the rest of the UK and the EU.

Now at Page 314 and have decided to give up......... lots and lots of words that say almost nothing.

[ramAnag]

Doesn’t seem to have a happy ending, MA...but the Leavers - Davis, Raab, Johnson, McVey etc - certainly seem to have lived up to their name, while Gove has only enhanced his, ‘what’s in it for me?’, reputation for utter duplicity.

[Andy_Faber]

Doesn’t seem to have a happy ending, MA...but the Leavers - Davis, Raab, Johnson, McVey etc - certainly seem to have lived up to their name, while Gove has only enhanced his, ‘what’s in it for me?’, reputation for utter duplicity.

Beware The Govester. I think he will play a significant part in things going forward

[ramAnag]

Beware The Govester. I think he will play a significant part in things going forward

God help us all then. Even by the low standards of today’s politicians the ‘man’ seems to me a complete slime ball.
Today he’s ‘absolutely’ behind the PM...it only took him over thirty six hours to work out that stance!
I’d be very worried indeed if I was Madam May and Gove announced he was behind me...just be waiting for the feel of cold steel between the shoulder blades.

[Andy_Faber]

God help us all then. Even by the low standards of today’s politicians the ‘man’ seems to me a complete slime ball.
Today he’s ‘absolutely’ behind the PM...it only took him over thirty six hours to work out that stance!
I’d be very worried indeed if I was Madam May and Gove announced he was behind me...just be waiting for the feel of cold steel between the shoulder blades.

I'm not character assessing him, just saying he'll feature

My reading of the Social Media Tealeaves suggests Imelda's stock has risen in the last 48 hours and that her own Geoff Boycott analogy is gaining traction.

[ramAnag]

Hm

I'm not character assessing him, just saying he'll feature

My reading of the Social Media Tealeaves suggests Imelda's stock has risen in the last 48 hours and that her own Geoff Boycott analogy is gaining traction.

Think you’re probably right. Losing McVey to be replaced by Rudd seems like a good piece of political transfer business too, but as someone has already pointed out...Boycott was once deliberately run out by Botham at his own team’s request.

[MadAmster]

Might this "deal" actually be an unintended master stroke?

Mayhem seems to have done the impossible and united Remain and Leave against here and her deal

[Manofpride]

[ramAnag]

Might this "deal" actually be an unintended master stroke?

Mayhem seems to have done the impossible and united Remain and Leave against here and her deal

It may indeed have been a ‘master stroke’ MA. We’ve all been taken back to July 2016 when May as potential PM was the lesser of a number of evils...looking at the two leading contenders to replace her now - dim Davis and Boris the buffoon - she’s managed to make herself, Rudd and Hammond look by far the most credible and attractive Tory option.

With all the letters currently flying around I’d love to see the PM write one to the country saying...’we’ve wasted billions of £’s over the last three years and millions of hours trying to make the will of just over a third of the people work for the country. We haven’t succeeeded and now have to accept that it has all been a huge mistake. It may not be perfect but there is actually no deal as good as the one we’ve got as part of the EU and with the interests of the British people uppermost in mind we’re going to abandon the idea of leaving and cease wasting time and money on trying to achieve the impossible at the earliest opportunity.’

[Geoff Parkstone]

I think that's actually not a bad idea RA since then Corbyn would then have to adapt to the leave cause. We'd then have the rather unusual site of Corbyn aligning with Aaron Banks and the more extremes of the right. What fun.

Sadly it seems Brexit is now being used by Labour as an excuse to demand a general election, so they are simply seeking their own betterment, not that of the country. Just make sure May fails, no matter whether the deal is good or bad.

I seem to remember you saying the Brexit decision was too complex to be left to the people and should be left to parliament. Sadly I now feel that Parliament contains too many people with personal agendae and conflicts of interest (and not just Corbyn) to be trusted with the decision. So maybe the Queen can decide

[ramAnag]

I think that's actually not a bad idea RA since then Corbyn would then have to adapt to the leave cause. We'd then have the rather unusual site of Corbyn aligning with Aaron Banks and the more extremes of the right. What fun.

Sadly it seems Brexit is now being used by Labour as an excuse to demand a general election, so they are simply seeking their own betterment, not that of the country. Just make sure May fails, no matter whether the deal is good or bad.

I seem to remember you saying the Brexit decision was too complex to be left to the people and should be left to parliament. Sadly I now feel that Parliament contains too many people with personal agendae and conflicts of interest (and not just Corbyn) to be trusted with the decision. So maybe the Queen can decide

Corbyn has always tended towards the ‘Leave’ cause imo, Geoff.
Can’t fault your thoughts about Parliament though. God save us from thinly disguised Nationalists and let’s hope for some common sense.

[Andy_Faber]

I think that's actually not a bad idea RA since then Corbyn would then have to adapt to the leave cause. We'd then have the rather unusual site of Corbyn aligning with Aaron Banks and the more extremes of the right. What fun.

Sadly it seems Brexit is now being used by Labour as an excuse to demand a general election, so they are simply seeking their own betterment, not that of the country. Just make sure May fails, no matter whether the deal is good or bad.

I seem to remember you saying the Brexit decision was too complex to be left to the people and should be left to parliament. Sadly I now feel that Parliament contains too many people with personal agendae and conflicts of interest (and not just Corbyn) to be trusted with the decision. So maybe the Queen can decide

As you can see by my avatar, Queenie already has her view

[ramAnag]

As you can see by my avatar, Queenie already has her view

I thought that was just the prospect of King Charles III, Andy.

[Andy_Faber]

I thought that was just the prospect of King Charles III, Andy.

Maybe another thing we could amicably disagree on, I personally think he'll be a great king, but like Brexit only time will tell, and also like Brexit most opinions in either direction are based way too much on emotion and lacking anything like enough insight.

[ramAnag]

Maybe another thing we could amicably disagree on, I personally think he'll be a great king, but like Brexit only time will tell, and also like Brexit most opinions in either direction are based way too much on emotion and lacking anything like enough insight.

Lol...I couldn’t care less really. The Royals are largely irrelevant to me. Sad thing is...even I have to admit they set a better example than most politicians...especially the collection of snakes and weasels on the Tory right.