OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[Trickytreesreds]

Your not telling me anything I didn't already know If I was a Labour vote which I'm not I would want rid of Corbyn History tells me that the Jews have a lot more to fear from the extreme right than from the left Yes you are talking to Paul Kitson that's the name iny my birth certificate .Born in Wollaton ( 15 Charlottcote Drive on the 28thSeptember 1970 to Kenneth and Jayne Kitson Any else you need to know I will do my best to help you

So are you still playing then?

When you say far right, you actually mean fascism dont you?
We all know what the Nazi's did. Though certain elements in Labour deny it.(Ken Livingstone did)

Jews didn't do very well under communism either( is that far left to you?)
Though interestingly enough, Stalin advocated a Jewish state believing it would become Communist and destabilize British influence in the middle east.
Well until they were perceived as a potential fifth column anyway.

So who are your threats to Jews in the UK? If a main political party can allow discrimination to thrive right in it's midst?
Are they far right or far left?

[MadAmster]

Shame you're not the Murton Kitson mista

[Geoff Parkstone]

A....wore a suit to work...except on the day when I was doing boys games when obviously a track suit was more appropriate.

B... sensible discussion about what is best for the people - not the two main Parties and one bunch of deluded opportunists - then neither the country, nor this debate can move forward.

A I'm not sure we should go into the matter of appropriate clothing for teachers playing boys games, or Catholic priests for that matter;

B So that's Labour Conservative and LibDems respectively ruled out.

[AngryRam]

A I'm not sure we should go into the matter of appropriate clothing for teachers playing boys games, or Catholic priests for that matter;

B So that's Labour Conservative and LibDems respectively ruled out.

I stopped at ‘doing boys’. Enough was enough.

[ramAnag]

A I'm not sure we should go into the matter of appropriate clothing for teachers playing boys games, or Catholic priests for that matter;

B So that's Labour Conservative and LibDems respectively ruled out.

Possibly says more about your schooling than mine, Parky ...and you know my feelings on Catholic priests or at least those from the era that we’ve spoken of before. Suspect they may have changed for the better these days.

I think Ken Livingstone’s issue was with Zionists, Tricky. Not all Jewish people are Zionists and there is a huge difference between being anti Semitic, which you repeatedly seek to accuse Corbyn and now Livingstone of, and being opposed to Zionism.

[mistaram]

On a serious note!
I never knew the Labour party had a large Jewish membership, I'd like to know why, is that a fact ? I'd like to know if Labour have the majority of Jewish members?
And by the way Farage is not a egotistical fraud!!!

So please tell us exactly what Farage is then MoP i must be missing something. By his record of trying to get elected as an MP so must a lot of others. I await with baited breath ������

[mistaram]

So are you still playing then?

No why do Forest need someone In only a bit older than Dawson😂😂

[swaledale]

I think my point was RA, had we not had first past the post, parliament would have looked very different in 2014.
There would have been an even stronger leave representation in parliament.

Seeing as so many MP's voted against what their constituents voted for.
This could have been settled a long time ago.

Public vote =leave
MP's vote what their constituents voted for= leave

70% of Tory constituencies voted out
60% of Labour constituencies voted out

Yet MP's don't like that.

MP's are obliged to take account of the whole of their electorate, given that just over 48% voted to remain, by not accepting a hard Brexit, which would be disastrous, they are taking into account those that voted to remain and seek a Brexit that is less damaging to the country as a whole, thats what MP's are supposed to do, lets face it if MP's just acted on the basis of what constituents wanted, then the country would be in an even worse state.

I know to those who are shall we say less able to understand the nuance of real life, that populist politicians with simple answers are appealing, lets face it an awful lot of Germans voted for Hitler, when he promised simple answers, but then found out what his real agenda was - its touching that you seem to think Farage with mysterious funding from dubious sources and backed by powerful right wing figures who certainly don't give a damn about the "average person" is the man doing what you want, talk about a Turkey voting for Xmas!

[swaledale]

So please tell us exactly what Farage is then MoP i must be missing something. By his record of trying to get elected as an MP so must a lot of others. I await with baited breath ������

An opportunist funded by very dubious people and the mouthpiece or useful idiot of rich very right wing people who are rubbing their hands at destabilizing the UK and making life worse for most of us.

[mistaram]

[QUOTE=swaledale;39267675]An opportunist funded by very dubious people and the mouthpiece or useful idiot of rich very right wing people who are rubbing their hands at destabilizing the UK and making life worse for most of us.[/QUOTE

Swale what is dubious about Banks, Cotterall,Bannon( Trumps chief strategist ) I'm sure they have no ulterior motives

[ramAnag]

[QUOTE=mistaram;39267815]

An opportunist funded by very dubious people and the mouthpiece or useful idiot of rich very right wing people who are rubbing their hands at destabilizing the UK and making life worse for most of us.[/QUOTE

Swale what is dubious about Banks, Cotterall,Bannon( Trumps chief strategist ) I'm sure they have no ulterior motives

C’mon now mista, that’s a bit harsh.
Cottrell - head of UKIP fundraising and Farage’s chief of staff - was only indicted on a mere 21 counts of conspiring to commit money laundering.
It’s not like he’s a proper crook and Mummy is an ‘Honourable’...can’t you just give the guy a break?

[mistaram]

[QUOTE=ramAnag;39267871]

C’mon now mista, that’s a bit harsh.
Cottrell - head of UKIP fundraising and Farage’s chief of staff - was only indicted on a mere 21 counts of conspiring to commit money laundering.
It’s not like he’s a proper crook and Mummy is an ‘Honourable’...can’t you just give the guy a break?

RA sorry about that my wife is always telling me I to see the worst side of people.I'm sure these men are just misunderstood and I sincerely offer my unreserved apologies to anybody on the site who I may have offended(especially from Nottingham and London)

[mistaram]

So are you still playing then?

When you say far right, you actually mean fascism dont you?
We all know what the Nazi's did. Though certain elements in Labour deny it.(Ken Livingstone did)

Jews didn't do very well under communism either( is that far left to you?)
Though interestingly enough, Stalin advocated a Jewish state believing it would become Communist and destabilize British influence in the middle east.
Well until they were perceived as a potential fifth column anyway.

So who are your threats to Jews in the UK? If a main political party can allow discrimination to thrive right in it's midst?
Are they far right or far left?

So are you saying the far right are not a threat to Jews in this country You can't have listened to Tommy Robinson and his allies very closely then . Hes about as far right as you can get

[Trickytreesreds]

Sorry, I'm confused here. Since when was Tommy Robinson a danger to Jews?
He is an anti Islam activist and has support from Jews about the way Muslims are breaking the law.
Yes, he's far right. But last time I looked, he was inside and has very little political power in the UK.

On the other hand, a major political party, has a hard core anti Semitic following. That makes them Jewish activists.
Who exactly is in the best position to persecute Jews?
This position has changed drastically within 5 years.

So I'll ask again. Are they far right or far left?

[mistaram]

This is what the Jewish Chronicle are saying " Jews who ally with Tommy Robinson are your own worst enemy "
A hard core Anti Semetic following ( name them ) 13million people voted Labour in 2017 so how many do think are Semites You should have the intelligence to see through the headlines how many Palestinians have you seen given an interview in the Mail Express or any Jewish owner radio or TV station So you ask are they are far right or far left I would be inclined to say left of centre But of course it's easier for people like you to focus on anti semitism than the real evils that this government has done and still doing Would be nice if you mention austerity,police,educationn, prisons, nhs,transport all decimated under this right wing government