OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[ramAnag]

So - just announced on the Marr show - Farage isn’t standing for Parliament after all.
Says he’s going to lead the Brexit Party but can’t do that and stand as an MP too.
Don’t know how Corbyn, Johnson and Swinson cope...what a gutless empty vessel Farage has proved to be.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Corbyn, Johnson et al ( who is Swinson?) have all been given safe seats. A pig who wore the correct coloured rosette could get elected in their constituencies. NF would have to fight his way in as there are no rotten UKIP boroughs. Simple, sensible choice as UKIP is a one cause party and is likely nationally irrelevant in 6 months time.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Corbyn, Johnson et al ( who is Swinson?) have all been given safe seats. A pig who wore the correct coloured rosette could get elected in their constituencies. NF would have to fight his way in as there are no rotten UKIP boroughs. Simple, sensible choice as UKIP is a one cause party and is likely nationally irrelevant in 6 months time.

[ramAnag]

Corbyn, Johnson et al ( who is Swinson?) have all been given safe seats. A pig who wore the correct coloured rosette could get elected in their constituencies. NF would have to fight his way in as there are no rotten UKIP boroughs. Simple, sensible choice as UKIP is a one cause party and is likely nationally irrelevant in 6 months time.

Johnson’s seat isn’t that safe...about a 5000 majority. One of the reasons he’s thinking of transferring to stand against Dominic Grieve in the much safer Tory seat of Beaconsfield.

Last time I looked Swinson was the MP for East Dumbartonshire which she won from Labour some time ago, not sure of your point.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Point is that I had never heard of her?

[Andy_Faber]

So - just announced on the Marr show - Farage isn’t standing for Parliament after all.
Says he’s going to lead the Brexit Party but can’t do that and stand as an MP too.
Don’t know how Corbyn, Johnson and Swinson cope...what a gutless empty vessel Farage has proved to be.

They cope (or at least JC and BJ do, see below) for the reasons Geoff mentioned, plus any seat NF chose to contest would have massive resources poured at it by the other parties to prevent him prevailing, resources the less well established parties including The Brexit Party don't have. I'm actually surprised Jo Swinson isn't doing something similar, my friend Ev in East Dumbartonshire thinks she'll be in real trouble now that SNP have chosen a female candidate, and good luck to them to be honest

[Manofpride]

So - just announced on the Marr show - Farage isn’t standing for Parliament after all.
Says he’s going to lead the Brexit Party but can’t do that and stand as an MP too.
Don’t know how Corbyn, Johnson and Swinson cope...what a gutless empty vessel Farage has proved to be.

Although it won't happen I wish Farage was Prime Minister, he'd do a great job!

[ramAnag]

Although it won't happen I wish Farage was Prime Minister, he'd do a great job!

Well, clearly I couldn’t disagree more...to me he’s nothing more than an attention seeker who has become a ‘fat cat’ entirely as a result of his penchant for rabble rousing. A semi articulate trouble maker with not one single solution to offer imo and a latter day Oswald Mosley who the country will be better off without.

So, not for the first time, we’ll have to differ MoP, but given your opening comment on this thread - well over three years ago - that is why I referenced his ‘announcement’ on the Marr Show this morning. We appear to have come full circle. It appears ‘most folk’ wouldn’t want Farage as PM after all and thank goodness for that!

[Trickytreesreds]

Well, clearly I couldn’t disagree more...to me he’s nothing more than an attention seeker who has become a ‘fat cat’ entirely as a result of his penchant for rabble rousing. A semi articulate trouble maker with not one single solution to offer imo and a latter day Oswald Mosley who the country will be better off without.

So, not for the first time, we’ll have to differ MoP, but given your opening comment on this thread - well over three years ago - that is why I referenced his ‘announcement’ on the Marr Show this morning. We appear to have come full circle. It appears ‘most folk’ wouldn’t want Farage as PM after all and thank goodness for that!

I don't believe anyone has ever thought Farage would get to be PM.
But what folks try to do, is sweep him under the carpet as they are **** scred of what he has done. That's tip over the apple cart. As said earlier, the 2 main parties would pour anything resource wise to undermine him,.
He's a threat to them and they know it.
It's still a disgrace after 2015 considering the muppets who got a seat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiJBrjyPwfw

[mistaram]

About the only thing I agree with him about Our voting system his corrupt The electorate ,mainly at fault when Clegg had the AV vote nobody could be bothered to vote But not surprising because because the right wing press mullered it Definately not in their interest was it ( was the Sun that lost it was the headline at the time ) Anyway watch Farage in the Marr show this morning he's right when he says Johnson's deal isn't Brexit but the trouble with Farage is he will only accept No deal because what he wants that's the only way he will get it. Would expect him to a deal with Johnson about tactical voting . Johnson is saying it won't happen but we all no what he says and he does are not the same Hard to believe that Farage is allowed to promote his Brexit Party everyday over the airways on LBC for to be a conflict of interest there

[ramAnag]

I don't believe anyone has ever thought Farage would get to be PM.
But what folks try to do, is sweep him under the carpet as they are **** scred of what he has done. That's tip over the apple cart. As said earlier, the 2 main parties would pour anything resource wise to undermine him,.
He's a threat to them and they know it.
It's still a disgrace after 2015 considering the muppets who got a seat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiJBrjyPwfw

Easy enough to ‘upset the apple cart’, Tricky.
It’s a lot harder to build things for the future.
Farage seems to have built very nicely for his own future, via LBC and his European Parliament based salary and pension.
Done nothing for this country other than create division and then run away imo.

[Trickytreesreds]

Easy enough to ‘upset the apple cart’, Tricky.
It’s a lot harder to build things for the future.
Farage seems to have built very nicely for his own future, via LBC and his European Parliament based salary and pension.
Done nothing for this country other than create division and then run away imo.

Rubbish, but that's your opinion.

He gave the electorate a chance to voice their discontent. To upset the arrogant status quo that has endured for long enough. 2 parties doing what the hell they liked, with the Lib dims jumping in when it suited.
No one listened or gave a flying to what was being protested.
UKIP then the Brexit party have caused enough of a stink to make a difference.

Would we have ever got a vote without UKIP? No we wouldn't.
But democracy doesn't go hand in hand with lots in parliament.
We got a vote and it shocked them.
Then May got arrogant, so the Brexit party pushed its way to the front.
Ignore it at your peril Boris.

As was endorsed by Juncker, he couldn't believe that UKIP only had one seat, after pooling more votes than the SNP/Libs/Greens put together.

As for the cushy EU job you bang on about. He doesn't want it. He wants it dissolved. But enough UK residents have sent him back to keep the pressure on.
You and the EU may not like that, but he's only there by public choice.
Don't want him there, vote him out.
That's democracy for you. Oooooooops that's a can of worms reply

[ramAnag]

Rubbish, but that's your opinion.

He gave the electorate a chance to voice their discontent. To upset the arrogant status quo that has endured for long enough. 2 parties doing what the hell they liked, with the Lib dims jumping in when it suited.
No one listened or gave a flying to what was being protested.
UKIP then the Brexit party have caused enough of a stink to make a difference.

Would we have ever got a vote without UKIP? No we wouldn't.
But democracy doesn't go hand in hand with lots in parliament.
We got a vote and it shocked them.
Then May got arrogant, so the Brexit party pushed its way to the front.
Ignore it at your peril Boris.

As was endorsed by Juncker, he couldn't believe that UKIP only had one seat, after pooling more votes than the SNP/Libs/Greens put together.

As for the cushy EU job you bang on about. He doesn't want it. He wants it dissolved. But enough UK residents have sent him back to keep the pressure on.
You and the EU may not like that, but he's only there by public choice.
Don't want him there, vote him out.
That's democracy for you. Oooooooops that's a can of worms reply

...and that’s your opinion.

He used democracy to get elected to the European Parliament because, sadly, so few people vote in those elections.

Democracy worked differently in the domestic elections though didn’t it? Failed seven times and couldn’t face an eighth defeat once he saw that his - and your - beloved Brexit Party is currently looking at an estimated 9% of the vote.

[Andy_Faber]

...and that’s your opinion.

He used democracy to get elected to the European Parliament because, sadly, so few people vote in those elections.

Democracy worked differently in the domestic elections though didn’t it? Failed seven times and couldn’t face an eighth defeat once he saw that his - and your - beloved Brexit Party is currently looking at an estimated 9% of the vote.

TTR and RA, your spat condenses the whole UK into a few dozen posts, find some common ground and work from there!

However, agreeing with Mista, NF seems to have got himself some very valuable and beyond-free publicity with his LBC gig, not sure that's fair.

An observation from my recent time in Spain, and its only a small demographic - contrary to the impression given by 'traditional' UK media, most expats I have come across are NF (although not BJ) fans and have abandoned BBC, ITV and Sky News in favour of LBC.

[Trickytreesreds]

...and that’s your opinion.

He used democracy to get elected to the European Parliament because, sadly, so few people vote in those elections.

Democracy worked differently in the domestic elections though didn’t it? Failed seven times and couldn’t face an eighth defeat once he saw that his - and your - beloved Brexit Party is currently looking at an estimated 9% of the vote.

You see, there you go again with the classic mistake
"My beloved Brexit party"

It is not my beloved party at all. It is a tool, for an end to a means.
I stopped voting like a colour wearing idiot years ago.
That's the problem in this country. Folks would vote for a chimpanzee in the right coloured rosette.
In the last 20 years I have for them all in one form or another.

But at the moment, I would never vote Liberal/Labour for their stance and attempts to undermine a referendum, they said/vowed/pledges to uphold.

It's about democracy and who is ever going to vote again, if they cannot trust their vote to be adhered to?

I want that vote carried out, then I want to see what the parties do regarding the internal politics of this country.
Then I'll decide who I vote for.
But you keep assuming what I'll do, I find it funny.