Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
Andy...I’m genuinely puzzled at your position on this...especially given that you repeatedly identify yourself as the only practising Christian on here.

In a pandemic the mantra that ‘no one is safe until everyone is safe’ is fundamentally true. If we are to overcome Covid and retake control then it is essential that those ‘harder to reach’ groups are vaccinated and that the rich countries of the world provide for those that are poor.

I’d have honestly thought that would appeal to your Christian principles, but instead you just seem to bang on every day about
how wonderful our vaccination figures are. Honestly chap...it isn’t going to make any difference...yes the UK government’s first responsibility is to the citizens of the UK and they may be getting it right compared with some others, but we cannot exist in some sort of mythical splendid isolation.
that deserves a sensible response

I don't agree with the mantra. I've had the vaccine, and all things being equal that makes me at least 60% less likely to catch the virus and 95% less likely to die from it, and the second jab will increase those odds, any booster even more. That didn't need ANY other soul to be vaccinated. that's not selfishhness, that's fact, the same applies to you and its how our response to flu works, we don't rely on the world to take a flu jabs, we rely on ourselves (nb I'm not pretending flu is as serious as Covid but its still a deadly disease)

I think your 'harder to reach' groups and the ones I was disagreeing with (as mentioned by Swale) are different. The Palestinian territories are what I consider harder to reach groups and I've proposed on here and elsewhere that UK take on that task as Israel and The World don't seem keen. If you think offering help to a 99% Muslim territory is unChristian plase pm me the rationale. Swales 'harder to reach' related to UK, where IMO 'we' are expending too much effort on areas of our population where the returns are bound to be low purely due to the maths of it, no reference to any of the -isms.

Its not unChristian to celebrate success, I don't believe in miracles but if I did the vaccination process would come close, and I will keep banging on about it and about the EU administration's abject failure, WITHOUT celebrating the latter because the EU politicians are killing people, including potentially friends of mine.

As an island nation (including The Republic Of Ireland) we CAN exist in splendid isolation, or at least we can make use of a geological anomoly (the sea) to help us in 'the fight'. It was one of HMG's biggest SNAFUs to not drastically limit the inward and outward flow of people early on in the pandemic, an issue I recall you having a say or two on. Other (admittedly less 'connected') island nations have succeeded on this basis