Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
that deserves a sensible response

I don't agree with the mantra. I've had the vaccine, and all things being equal that makes me at least 60% less likely to catch the virus and 95% less likely to die from it, and the second jab will increase those odds, any booster even more. That didn't need ANY other soul to be vaccinated. that's not selfishhness, that's fact, the same applies to you and its how our response to flu works, we don't rely on the world to take a flu jabs, we rely on ourselves (nb I'm not pretending flu is as serious as Covid but its still a deadly disease)

I think your 'harder to reach' groups and the ones I was disagreeing with (as mentioned by Swale) are different. The Palestinian territories are what I consider harder to reach groups and I've proposed on here and elsewhere that UK take on that task as Israel and The World don't seem keen. If you think offering help to a 99% Muslim territory is unChristian plase pm me the rationale. Swales 'harder to reach' related to UK, where IMO 'we' are expending too much effort on areas of our population where the returns are bound to be low purely due to the maths of it, no reference to any of the -isms.

Its not unChristian to celebrate success, I don't believe in miracles but if I did the vaccination process would come close, and I will keep banging on about it and about the EU administration's abject failure, WITHOUT celebrating the latter because the EU politicians are killing people, including potentially friends of mine.

As an island nation (including The Republic Of Ireland) we CAN exist in splendid isolation, or at least we can make use of a geological anomoly (the sea) to help us in 'the fight'. It was one of HMG's biggest SNAFUs to not drastically limit the inward and outward flow of people early on in the pandemic, an issue I recall you having a say or two on. Other (admittedly less 'connected') island nations have succeeded on this basis
Having the vaccine is obviously not selfish. Adopting a philosophy of I’ve had it so anyone else can, and it’s their fault if they don’t...is.

We’re in the middle of a pandemic, by definition a global problem...we have two choices...1. Adopt a survival of the fittest ‘we’re alright Jack’ attitude based on some sort of increasingly nationalistic vision or 2. Share knowledge and resources on a global basis to conquer the problem across the world.

Sadly, and surprisingly, you seem to be supporting the former. I don’t actually believe in Jesus, although as a fictional figure I believe there to be no finer role model. You do apparently believe in all that stuff...ask yourself which of 1 or 2 above Jesus would choose.

As for us being ‘protected’ and able to exist in splendid isolation as a result of being an ‘Island Nation’...I’m sorry but that’s just anachronistic and delusional nonsense.