Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
"I'm sure there are a number of left wing or left of centre research/ pressure groups. None of them however seem to have the influence exerted by 55."

Given that the last 14 years have seen a Tory government it is unsurprising to see those pressure groups have exerted influence. I'm sure in the years of the Blair-Brown axis that left wing think tanks influenced their policy.

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So you think the influence stops when the Tories are out? Where do you think such agendas as privatise the NHS, bring in an insurance system as spouted by Farage and others comes from?

Do you actually think that the battery of paid lobbyists and so called think tanks aren't both repeating right wing aims into the ears of Starmer, Sweeting etc. Do you think they don't spend money on freebies for whoever is in power to gain traction for some of their ideas? Don't you understand that the way the right works is to repeat certain ideas, to spread disinformation repeatedly so that it becomes a familiar sound in people's ears, such that their views start to think, yes of course the NHS needs to be partly or wholly privatised, of course its in a mess due to immigrants ,excess demand (I mean nothing to do with chronic mismanagement, constant reviews and underfunding by the last government obviously!).

That regulation needs to be loosened to "promote" entrepreneurs, that employment laws are too strict, that the problem with lack of social housing is immigrants (even funnily enough in places like Clacton where the population is 92% white British, but hey repeat these ideas and lies often enough and the simpletons will believe it.

I actually thought you had more understanding than what your actually demonstrating, its not a black and white. left or right thing, not that in all honesty you could call Starmer's labour party left wing, you'd be pushed to say it was centre left and very possibly its on the same political axis as a One Nation Tory party.