O/T Labours cunning plan - again !!

[ragingpup]

with 8.66 a week what are they doing buying one trainer a week , even down the market you don?t get much for 8.66. I?m around manvers a lot with my son and grandson living there . I?ve seen plenty of the illegal sorry I know you don?t like that word, irregular folk in and round that hotel. I don?t think I?ve said they are getting more money I?ve agreed with the oricle bout that . So tell me how they dress themselves get a mobile phone and pay for the contract and buy one trainer a week maybe on tick . Forgot how much is it costing to keep them all nice and warm per week, the tax payer is picking up that bill .

Have you tried asking them?

Are you happy with legal asylum seekers from Ukraine etc? How do you know that they aren't located in this hotel?

As a tax payer, I'm not happy that we've been so ****ing useless in processing claims that we are left with a huge backlog which at least is moving faster but as yet, nether you, Farage nor anyone has come up with a legal, credible plan that is likely to provide any alternative to that. In another alternative universe, I'd love to see Farage actually placed in a position of power and responsibility so he can try his own methos of dealing with this, as well as his own Trussian economic fantasies, but I wouldn't like to live in that universe to see the **** hit the fan!

The asylum seeker issue is world wide, impacting the vast majority of European countries, many more so than us, and I can understand why my money is going where it's going and grudging accept it, more so than pushing people back into war torn countries. On that we will have to agree to disagree. If Farage gets in as I'm sure you and many others wish, then let's see what happens. His work on Brexit went so well for us...

[mygiddypant]

The Farage image isn't the millionaire former merchant banker that he once was , the image is an ordinary bloke whose done well for himself who likes a pint and a fag and has views that millions of Brits agree with .

"He's one of us!"

Seem to remember the same words being said about Johnson. You have to give credit for both being ace manipulators of their public images.
Farage has 'great' role models in Putin and Trump.

Starmer is at least his own man.

[Pocket rocket]

What a pathetic situation.
The left on here are only interested in discrediting Farage but happy to ignore the worst prime minister ever who is a serial liar.
The right claim Farage is the answer but on what basis ?
And the serial arguer who just tells people that they are upset or have read too much daily mail.

Principles and morals go out of the window because of political affiliation.
What happened to genuine principles or values? Gone unfortunately.

[Stovicmiller]

No problem with legal asylum. Illegal migration yes . Would you or anyone on this site open your door and let in some one you have never seen before? because that is what this country is doing. We don?t know who they are . No I haven?t asked them tho how they manage, my daughter had to go there involving her work as a psychological practitioner with interpreters because most didn?t speak English. She also felt nervous having to walk through large groups of men just looking at her .

[ragingpup]

No problem with legal asylum. Illegal migration yes . Would you or anyone on this site open your door and let in some one you have never seen before? because that is what this country is doing. We don?t know who they are . No I haven?t asked them tho how they manage, my daughter had to go there involving her work as a psychological practitioner with interpreters because most didn?t speak English. She also felt nervous having to walk through large groups of men just looking at her .

Are you aware that some of the AS at the hotel you are looking at may well have come via legal routes?

How do you equate that to us opening our doors? The problem is that no one, Tories, Labour or anyone has suggested a method of stopping the boats arriving and what to do with them when they arrived that is lawful and workable. I'm not happy about it but understand what's happening and how difficult a situation it is, with the wider picture of the circumstances that many of them are in that leads here and the even wider system that it is happening all over Europe.

What do you think we should do?

[howdydoo]

What a pathetic situation.
The left on here are only interested in discrediting Farage but happy to ignore the worst prime minister ever who is a serial liar.
The right claim Farage is the answer but on what basis ?
And the serial arguer who just tells people that they are upset or have read too much daily mail.

Principles and morals go out of the window because of political affiliation.
What happened to genuine principles or values? Gone unfortunately.

I agree. Totally gone out of the window.

Blair
Cameron
Johnson
May

Complete and utter liars.

Sunak and now Starmer are even worse.

Sunak mainly for his role as Chancellor.


The 2 party system is done for in this country. Labour and the Tory's will never be trusted again.

I'm surprised 50% of Tory MP's haven't defected to Reform or set up a new party yet. I think we'll see a far left breakaway party before the next election as well.

You never know a new party might form to genuinely represent the WORKING PEOPLE of this country.

There's going to be a massive reset at some point in the not too distant future. I think the EU will break up first though.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

I agree. Totally gone out of the window.

Blair
Cameron
Johnson
May

Complete and utter liars.

Sunak and now Starmer are even worse.

Sunak mainly for his role as Chancellor.


The 2 party system is done for in this country. Labour and the Tory's will never be trusted again.

I'm surprised 50% of Tory MP's haven't defected to Reform or set up a new party yet. I think we'll see a far left breakaway party before the next election as well.

You never know a new party might form to genuinely represent the WORKING PEOPLE of this country.

There's going to be a massive reset at some point in the not too distant future. I think the EU will break up first though.

I think we saw the first symptoms of a likely reset outside the hotel in manvers

[Stovicmiller]

Are you aware that some of the AS at the hotel you are looking at may well have come via legal routes?

How do you equate that to us opening our doors? The problem is that no one, Tories, Labour or anyone has suggested a method of stopping the boats arriving and what to do with them when they arrived that is lawful and workable. I'm not happy about it but understand what's happening and how difficult a situation it is, with the wider picture of the circumstances that many of them are in that leads here and the even wider system that it is happening all over Europe.

What do you think we should do?

some at that hotel might have been legal if so I would say we would have a better idea who they were and where they are from. The dinghy boys on the other hand no idea where who and how old they are. Adult dinghy boys in our schools. That?s happened in our schools in Rotherham. I?ll leave it up to the politicians to sort out if they have the will .

[Yak]

Add to the list the chagos islands. How much is this costing us?
He?s an enemy of the state.
He welcomes everyone or thing he doesn?t know and hates everyone and things he does.
He?s literally not acting in the countries best interests and should be tried for treason.

[frogmiller]

Add to the list the chagos islands. How much is this costing us?
He?s an enemy of the state.
He welcomes everyone or thing he doesn?t know and hates everyone and things he does.
He?s literally not acting in the countries best interests and should be tried for treason.

I Agee 100% Yak.