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Pre-crime, bloody hell, one step away from pre-thought!! Orwell was a hundred years out, it should have been 2084.
Hang on, someone banging on the door!!
Hang on, someone banging on the door!!
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I think the Milei story is a bit overblown. Every government monitors social media and online activities to identify those planning to engage in crime or terrorist activities. There are watchlists, and if police or security services believe they have sufficient evidence to move, they will do so before a crime is committed, with charges of "conspiracy to commit XYZ". It sounds very Orwellian, but I'd imagine AI is much more efficient at monitoring large amounts of online activity than humans. I'd imagine most countries already use algorithms in this case.Originally posted by upthemaggies View Post
There are obvious risks that it could be abused by the state and that people would be afraid to speak their minds about anything, but hopefully that isn't the case. You'd think a libertarian would be less likely to oppress people via state apparatus than other politicians, but I guess we'll see. Power corrupts and all that.Comment
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Preventing crime should mean police on the streets, not intimidating harmless old people who've never been on the wrong side of the law for speculating about the motives of their government and behaviour of their police force. Very often folks online are over the target but turn out to be 75% correct rather 100% accurate, yet that will be enough for them to be in bother for spreading "disinformation". Online is just an extension of regular conversation but people are being held up to the standards MSM ought to be meeting, yet they get away with blatant propaganda.Originally posted by SmiffyPie View Post
The powers that be will use the excuse that "pre-crime" intervention prevents mass random shootings or whatever, but in reality it will be Joe Bloggs feeling the heat for posting and sharing information and opinions that disrupt the narrative.Comment
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As you insist on parodying Martin Niemoller, perhaps you should look at a few more of his more profound utterancesOriginally posted by Mapperleypie View Post
"Dear brother, fellow man, Jew, before you say anything, I say to you: I acknowledge my guilt and beg you to forgive me and my people for this sin.?
Perhaps the police should read this before the regular London Saturday Mob FestComment
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Well how long have law abiding citizens been asking for Mr Plod to be seen? Donkeys years! I live on the edge of a large city in the North West that attracts thousands of visitors every year. As a consequence of those visitors we have had a spate of very aggressive begging. Any sign of Mr Plod? Nope. Haven't seen a police person (real or Plastic) in the city in a very very long time.Originally posted by upthemaggies View PostComment
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Let's scrap the older stuff now just in case the Defence Review decides that money should be spent on them!
And please can all beligerent countries refrain from any aggressive action against us until we are better equipped.
Is there anything we are good at? Conkers? Tiddleywinks?Comment
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It does make you wonder what they, "the Government of the day", think is happening in the world? Are they blind or just gambling.Originally posted by Old_pie View PostLet's scrap the older stuff now just in case the Defence Review decides that money should be spent on them!
And please can all beligerent countries refrain from any aggressive action against us until we are better equipped.
Is there anything we are good at? Conkers? Tiddleywinks?Comment
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I thought decisions like allowing the use of our missiles by the Ukraine would have had have to go through Parliament for approval ?Originally posted by SmiffyPie View PostComment
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No, we are not at war, we are supporting a third party.Originally posted by keldsyke View PostComment
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Who are the ?harmless old people? that are being intimidated for ?speculating about the motives of their government??Originally posted by upthemaggies View Post
I?d Google it, but as you can imagine I?d need to be a bit more specific.
Edit; this question mark thingy?s driving me barmy!Comment
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It gets worse than that, kids are being investigated by police for playground name calling....Originally posted by BigFatPie View Post
"Children are among thousands of people being investigated by police for non-crime hate incidents, The Times can reveal.
Police forces recorded incidents against a nine-year-old who called a primary school classmate a 'retard' and against two secondary school girls who said that another pupil smelt 'like fish'."
I was being rhetorical in my previous post, but of those thousands(!!!) of people being investigated for not committing any crime, how many of those people are going to the MSM and what success rate do they have for getting their stories told? The whole point of this tactic is to intimidate people into silence. We can see from social media what people are now afraid of - two tier policing - particularly in regard to free speech.Comment
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Those incidents, as ludicrous as they are, indicate to me over zealous administration of relatively new laws rather than the impending arrival of a police state.Originally posted by upthemaggies View Post
A lot has been made of the example of Allison Pearson, in her case she libelled 2 Pakistani men as Jew haters in a tweet which she later deleted. There?s an interesting explanation of that case in the latest Private Eye. That one is in no way a freedom of speech issue, though one could argue the police were somewhat heavy handed. Also to interesting to note that for such a freedom of speech warrior she appears very quick to shut down others.
She also has a lot of past form for spreading misinformation.Comment
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Ah, Jon Sopel, that totally unbiased tweeter. It does seem very selective who's singled out here for "misinformation", what about Hope Not Hate's Nick Lowles' tweet? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...t-acid-attack/Originally posted by BigFatPie View PostThose incidents, as ludicrous as they are, indicate to me over zealous administration of relatively new laws rather than the impending arrival of a police state.
A lot has been made of the example of Allison Pearson, in her case she libelled 2 Pakistani men as Jew haters in a tweet which she later deleted. There?s an interesting explanation of that case in the latest Private Eye. That one is in no way a freedom of speech issue, though one could argue the police were somewhat heavy handed. Also to interesting to note that for such a freedom of speech warrior she appears very quick to shut down others.
She also has a lot of past form for spreading misinformation.Comment
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No one is unbiased, but if you think he?s lying about her threat from her lawyers than I?d disagree.Originally posted by Observerpie View PostComment
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Doesn't answer the issue of how selective he is for his targets.Originally posted by BigFatPie View PostComment
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