Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
Climate change is real. Is man responsible? Not entirely IMO.

What I don't like is the guilt trip "they" try to send us on. The man in the street is being cajoled into EVs, Solar panels, expensive heat pumps and other things designed to get you to spend your savings on stuff that may, or may not, help the situation.

Here we are putting individuals and countries into ever more debt while China, India and others are pumping ever more CO2 into the air and the rich are doing ever more flights in their private jets. tens of thousands of people attending annual climate summits (COPxx).

With each and every passing year I'm getting more and more convinced that "those in charge" are edging us ever closer to a form of servitude where we've spent all our money on "save the planet" measures and the UK Covid guru is now pushing the "15 minute city" crap. The worst of it is, people appear to be "taking one for the world" rather than pointing out where we're actually going.

Revolution. NOW!

The alternative is Trump, Gates, Musk et al telling you where your place is and keeping you there...
I'd agree with all of that, except why did you just pick those 3?
We have our very own zealot, in Milliband, who'd slab over every piece of farmland and beauty spot with wind and solar farms, whilst Rayner concretes over the rest.

The weather/ temp has and always will change. It has been going on a along time before man stopped walking on all fours.
Try reading up on the sun/ earth tilt/ solar flare activities( milankovitch cycles)

I'm all for the clean up the planet stuff, but this obsession with sending everyone into poverty for minimum effect is ridiculous.